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Farrakhan says Barack Obama draws a 'oneness of spirit'

at 19:39 on November 9, 2008, EDT.
By Sophia Tareen, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CHICAGO - Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan says president-elect Barack Obama has a God-given capacity to handle any burdens he'll face as the nation's leader.

Farrakhan added that Obama will be able to make positive changes only with help from God and people of goodwill, and he urged followers of the Chicago-based black nationalist movement to do their part.

He said Obama has energized all segments of the depressed, downtrodden, rejected and despised in the U.S.

The once-ailing 75-year-old leader spoke to more than 1,000 followers in an address called America's New Beginning: President-elect Barack Obama.

Farrakhan said Obama draws a oneness of spirit from all people.

He admitted that he stayed quiet about his support for Obama during the past few months out of fear that his words would harm the Illinois senator's bid for the White House.

In February, Farrakhan praised Obama, calling him "the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better" at a Saviours' Day event in Chicago.

But Obama quickly distanced himself from Farrakhan, denouncing the minister's support during a presidential debate with then-Democratic rival Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama said he objected to Farrakhan's past statements about Judaism, which many have considered anti-Semitic. Nation of Islam officials have said Farrakhan's comments are often taken out of context.

On Sunday, Farrakhan said Obama faced unfair scrutiny for his associations with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, who was shown making fiery statements about the U.S. government in widely circulated video clips.

Obama was also criticized because of the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Chicago priest who mocked Clinton at Wright and Obama's former church, Trinity United Church of Christ.

"For nine months, I kept quiet because I saw that the good words that I spoke about this beautiful young man at our Saviours' Day convention and the way they were misused," Farrakhan said of Obama.

"I decided it would be better for me to just be quiet rather than be drawn into the controversy that was swirling around his pastor, Father Pfleger, and others."

Farrakhan then added with a smile: "I feel freer today to say the things that are in my heart."

He thanked black leaders including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, for laying the foundation for Obama's victory, which he called Divine.

The Nation of Islam has espoused black nationalism and self-reliance since it was founded in the 1930s, but has reached out more lately to other groups, including immigrants.

Farrakhan has haltingly tried to move the Nation toward traditional Islam, which considers the American movement heretical.

He has also downplayed some of the group's more controversial beliefs. The Nation of Islam has taught that whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


©The Canadian Press, 2008

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Whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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He admitted that he stayed quiet about his support for Obama during the past few months out of fear that his words would harm the Illinois senator's bid for the White House.

"I decided it would be better for me to just be quiet rather than be drawn into the controversy that was swirling around his pastor, Father Pfleger, and others."


And I'm certainly glad he did keep quiet. I wish Wright and Jesse would've done the same.

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Reply #3 posted 11/09/08 8:14pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.



I don't know why he has to distance himself from someone he doesn't know.

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Paris9748430 said:

PurpleKnight said:



I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.



I don't know why he has to distance himself from someone he doesn't know.


C'mon, now, You know all Black people know each other. eek

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El doublo-posto wink.
[Edited 11/9/08 20:38pm]

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PurpleKnight said:

Whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.

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Paris9748430 said:

PurpleKnight said:



I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.



I don't know why he has to distance himself from someone he doesn't know.


If he doesn't, neo-cons will have an easy way to support their smear campaign.

That is besides the point, though. He would be hypocritical in his message about inclusiveness to embrace the support of someone like Farrakhan who really just stands for a different sort of discrimination altogether.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #8 posted 11/09/08 11:17pm

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The Honorable Minister is a true man of God.

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sunlite said:

The Honorable Minister is a true man of God.


"Murder and lying comes easy for white people."

This is acceptable rhetoric for a "true man of God?"

I like the messages about ending the cycle of hatred, etc., but the problem is that he contradicts himself too many times. In my opinion, Obama was both politically responsible and morally right to deny his endorsement.

[Edited 11/10/08 0:24am]

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Reply #10 posted 11/10/08 12:34am

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PurpleKnight said:

Whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.


Because he is a smart man and he has risen above the finger pointing and name calling. He refuses to be caught up in the hype.
Thank goodness for that.
[Edited 11/10/08 3:43am]

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Reply #11 posted 11/10/08 2:15am

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at 19:39 on November 9, 2008, EDT.
By Sophia Tareen, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CHICAGO - Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan says president-elect Barack Obama has a God-given capacity to handle any burdens he'll face as the nation's leader.

Farrakhan added that Obama will be able to make positive changes only with help from God and people of goodwill, and he urged followers of the Chicago-based black nationalist movement to do their part.

He said Obama has energized all segments of the depressed, downtrodden, rejected and despised in the U.S.

The once-ailing 75-year-old leader spoke to more than 1,000 followers in an address called America's New Beginning: President-elect Barack Obama.

Farrakhan said Obama draws a oneness of spirit from all people.

He admitted that he stayed quiet about his support for Obama during the past few months out of fear that his words would harm the Illinois senator's bid for the White House.

In February, Farrakhan praised Obama, calling him "the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better" at a Saviours' Day event in Chicago.

But Obama quickly distanced himself from Farrakhan, denouncing the minister's support during a presidential debate with then-Democratic rival Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama said he objected to Farrakhan's past statements about Judaism, which many have considered anti-Semitic. Nation of Islam officials have said Farrakhan's comments are often taken out of context.

On Sunday, Farrakhan said Obama faced unfair scrutiny for his associations with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, who was shown making fiery statements about the U.S. government in widely circulated video clips.

Obama was also criticized because of the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Chicago priest who mocked Clinton at Wright and Obama's former church, Trinity United Church of Christ.

"For nine months, I kept quiet because I saw that the good words that I spoke about this beautiful young man at our Saviours' Day convention and the way they were misused," Farrakhan said of Obama.

"I decided it would be better for me to just be quiet rather than be drawn into the controversy that was swirling around his pastor, Father Pfleger, and others."

Farrakhan then added with a smile: "I feel freer today to say the things that are in my heart."

He thanked black leaders including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, for laying the foundation for Obama's victory, which he called Divine.

The Nation of Islam has espoused black nationalism and self-reliance since it was founded in the 1930s, but has reached out more lately to other groups, including immigrants.

Farrakhan has haltingly tried to move the Nation toward traditional Islam, which considers the American movement heretical.

He has also downplayed some of the group's more controversial beliefs. The Nation of Islam has taught that whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


©The Canadian Press, 2008


Here's hoping god stays the hell out of this presidency. He just tends to fuck things up...

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Reply #12 posted 11/10/08 2:50am

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PurpleKnight said:

Paris9748430 said:




I don't know why he has to distance himself from someone he doesn't know.


If he doesn't, neo-cons will have an easy way to support their smear campaign.

That is besides the point, though. He would be hypocritical in his message about inclusiveness to embrace the support of someone like Farrakhan who really just stands for a different sort of discrimination altogether.


hypocritical he already is no matter what. well hes mr demagogy!

u guys keep dreaming about obama. hey santa is real too!

more deaths in afganistan that in irak but people just wanna give shit to bush. u guys dont really care about bombs or killings. who are the hypocrite ones in here?


u love reverse racism? have u been in africa? do u know anything about racism between different tribes? YOU ARE SICK, MAN. hope u delete that stupid phrase.


obama is sending more troops to afganistan and he will keep bush plan in irak.

wait and see.
[Edited 11/10/08 2:52am]

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Reply #13 posted 11/10/08 2:51am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

PurpleKnight said:



If he doesn't, neo-cons will have an easy way to support their smear campaign.

That is besides the point, though. He would be hypocritical in his message about inclusiveness to embrace the support of someone like Farrakhan who really just stands for a different sort of discrimination altogether.


hypocritical he already is no matter what. well hes mr demagogy!

u guys keep dreaming about obama. hey santa is real too!

more deaths in afganistan that in irak but people just wanna give shit to bush. u guys dont really care about bombs or killings. who are the hypocrite ones in here?



obama is sending more troops to afganistan and he will keep bush plan in irak.

wait and see.


Where's Irak?

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Reply #14 posted 11/10/08 2:54am

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razor said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:



hypocritical he already is no matter what. well hes mr demagogy!

u guys keep dreaming about obama. hey santa is real too!

more deaths in afganistan that in irak but people just wanna give shit to bush. u guys dont really care about bombs or killings. who are the hypocrite ones in here?



obama is sending more troops to afganistan and he will keep bush plan in irak.

wait and see.


Where's Irak?



wow ur too funny!

and i bet u didnt know before the gulf war in 91....or maybe u didnt know until this second war....wait, or maybe u dont even know now.

i cannot believe so many people cannot find vietnam in a map.

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Reply #15 posted 11/10/08 3:07am

razor

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

razor said:



Where's Irak?



wow ur too funny!

and i bet u didnt know before the gulf war in 91....or maybe u didnt know until this second war....wait, or maybe u dont even know now.

i cannot believe so many people cannot find vietnam in a map.


You are correct of course. I have never known where Irak is and still don't..
[Edited 11/10/08 3:21am]

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Reply #16 posted 11/10/08 3:15am

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razor said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:




wow ur too funny!

and i bet u didnt know before the gulf war in 91....or maybe u didnt know until this second war....wait, or maybe u dont even know now.

i cannot believe so many people cannot find vietnam in a map.


You are correct of course. I haven't never known where Irak is and still don't..


dont worry, u dont need to know. go get some peanuts.

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Reply #17 posted 11/10/08 3:23am

razor

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

razor said:



You are correct of course. I haven't never known where Irak is and still don't..


dont worry, u dont need to know. go get some peanuts.



Why all the anger? Didn't your daddy hug you enough? Anyway... must remember not to engage trolls..

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Reply #18 posted 11/10/08 3:31am

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razor said:

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:



dont worry, u dont need to know. go get some peanuts.



Why all the anger? Didn't your daddy hug you enough? Anyway... must remember not to engage trolls..



yeah, why all the anger? just relax. ok i will not engage trolls like u anymore. u started with the stupid post about not knowing where irak was, remember? just say something interesting or dont say anything unless u wanna cause some silly discussion like this one.

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Reply #19 posted 11/10/08 3:33am

razor

hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

razor said:




Why all the anger? Didn't your daddy hug you enough? Anyway... must remember not to engage trolls..



yeah, why all the anger? just relax. ok i will not engage trolls like u anymore. u started with the stupid post about not knowing where irak was, remember? just say something interesting or dont say anything unless u wanna cause some silly discussion like this one.



Excellent. You still haven't got it have you? I have no idea where Irak is... falloff

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Reply #20 posted 11/10/08 3:36am

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PurpleKnight said:

Whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.


U love racism? is that against the rules of the org?

hey do u know anything about racism in africa? i hope u delete that stupid quote.

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Reply #21 posted 11/10/08 9:33am

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hwbefhbwvfbqiiuvb said:

PurpleKnight said:



I love reverse racism.

I wonder why Obama distances himself from this guy.


U love racism? is that against the rules of the org?

hey do u know anything about racism in africa? i hope u delete that stupid quote.


sar⋅casm
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–noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.


Even though your grammar renders the majority of your posts incoherent, I'm going to attempt to respond intelligently.

Unfortunately, it's true that Obama still largely supports the hegemonic tendencies of the US Government. He was against Iraq, yes, but only because it is a reckless type of imperialism. The fact of the matter is that if Obama had said he would remove all troops from the Middle East, the propaganda against him would have ensured that he didn't make it past the primary.

[Edited 11/10/08 9:42am]

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Reply #22 posted 11/10/08 10:18am

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I can tell you I don't feel oneness of spirit with Barack as my president.

America's political system used to be about the "pursuit of happiness." Now more and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered.
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^^^^^ lol lol It's okay, I don't think President-Elect Obama will lose sleep over you feeling that way. He will still be the President regardless. You'll be alright.

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2elijah said:

You'll be alright.



that remains to be seen. confused
[Edited 11/10/08 10:32am]

America's political system used to be about the "pursuit of happiness." Now more and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered.
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greenpixies said:

2elijah said:

You'll be alright.



that remains to be seen. confused
[Edited 11/10/08 10:32am]


After the desaster the Bush administration left behind, you are still alive and alright.
Give Obama a chance. I know you have no choice, but it will make you feel better.

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PurpleKnight said:

sunlite said:

The Honorable Minister is a true man of God.


[color=mediumpurple]"Murder and lying comes easy for white people."


[Edited 11/10/08 0:24am]


Is this not a FACT?

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luv4u said:

at 19:39 on November 9, 2008, EDT.
By Sophia Tareen, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CHICAGO - Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan says president-elect Barack Obama has a God-given capacity to handle any burdens he'll face as the nation's leader.

Farrakhan added that Obama will be able to make positive changes only with help from God and people of goodwill, and he urged followers of the Chicago-based black nationalist movement to do their part.

He said Obama has energized all segments of the depressed, downtrodden, rejected and despised in the U.S.

The once-ailing 75-year-old leader spoke to more than 1,000 followers in an address called America's New Beginning: President-elect Barack Obama.

Farrakhan said Obama draws a oneness of spirit from all people.

He admitted that he stayed quiet about his support for Obama during the past few months out of fear that his words would harm the Illinois senator's bid for the White House.

In February, Farrakhan praised Obama, calling him "the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better" at a Saviours' Day event in Chicago.

But Obama quickly distanced himself from Farrakhan, denouncing the minister's support during a presidential debate with then-Democratic rival Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama said he objected to Farrakhan's past statements about Judaism, which many have considered anti-Semitic. Nation of Islam officials have said Farrakhan's comments are often taken out of context.

On Sunday, Farrakhan said Obama faced unfair scrutiny for his associations with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, who was shown making fiery statements about the U.S. government in widely circulated video clips.

Obama was also criticized because of the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Chicago priest who mocked Clinton at Wright and Obama's former church, Trinity United Church of Christ.

"For nine months, I kept quiet because I saw that the good words that I spoke about this beautiful young man at our Saviours' Day convention and the way they were misused," Farrakhan said of Obama.

"I decided it would be better for me to just be quiet rather than be drawn into the controversy that was swirling around his pastor, Father Pfleger, and others."

Farrakhan then added with a smile: "I feel freer today to say the things that are in my heart."

He thanked black leaders including the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, for laying the foundation for Obama's victory, which he called Divine.

The Nation of Islam has espoused black nationalism and self-reliance since it was founded in the 1930s, but has reached out more lately to other groups, including immigrants.

Farrakhan has haltingly tried to move the Nation toward traditional Islam, which considers the American movement heretical.

He has also downplayed some of the group's more controversial beliefs. The Nation of Islam has taught that whites are descended from the devil and that blacks are the chosen people of Allah.


©The Canadian Press, 2008


Here's hoping god stays the hell out of this presidency. He just tends to fuck things up...

Obama just named a Jew Zionist as chief of staff...God aint going nowhere.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11"
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Graycap23 said:

PurpleKnight said:



[color=mediumpurple]"Murder and lying comes easy for white people."


[Edited 11/10/08 0:24am]


Is this not a FACT?


Ugh. What a repugnant comment. I'm white, and no, murder and lying does not come easy for me.

This is no less offensive than saying stealing and using drugs comes easy for black people.

Discriminating against the dominant class is not justifiable on the mere basis of them being the dominant class.
[Edited 11/10/08 11:02am]

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Graycap23 said:

PurpleKnight said:



[color=mediumpurple]"Murder and lying comes easy for white people."


[Edited 11/10/08 0:24am]


Is this not a FACT?


I think murder and lying comes easy for human beings...too easy. So does hatred and intolerance. It might be a good idea to not add to the problem.

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