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I credit him for actually putting this in his platform. I look forward to the day when our party grows some balls and tells haters to fuck off. I stay Woke.
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I'm not holding my breath on most of it.
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SUPRMAN said: I'm not holding my breath on most of it.
Don't expect a repeal of DOMA or Don't Ask. I agree. It will take a brave congress and you know how Dems are I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I credit him for actually putting this in his platform. I look forward to the day when our party grows some balls and tells haters to fuck off.
But don't you think there are "haters" on BOTH sides? Hating people because of their differences regardless if you are STRAIGHT, GAY, Christian, Atheist, Black or White is wrong. Jesus never preached hate...always love for all, even the sinners. The ones who stand on some sort of personal version of God's Word hating sinners, gays, drug addicts etc. are not living the Word Of God and what Jesus preached. They are no different than the atheists like Bill Maher who spend a great deal of their lives to attack Christians for their beliefs. I don't hate the Obama supporters...I just don’t agree with what Obama stands for. So at the end of the day...haters are on BOTH sides. TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I credit him for actually putting this in his platform. I look forward to the day when our party grows some balls and tells haters to fuck off.
But don't you think there are "haters" on BOTH sides? Hating people because of their differences regardless if you are STRAIGHT, GAY, Christian, Atheist, Black or White is wrong. Jesus never preached hate...always love for all, even the sinners. The ones who stand on some sort of personal version of God's Word hating sinners, gays, drug addicts etc. are not living the Word Of God and what Jesus preached. They are no different than the atheists like Bill Maher who spend a great deal of their lives to attack Christians for their beliefs. I don't hate the Obama supporters...I just don’t agree with what Obama stands for. So at the end of the day...haters are on BOTH sides. Oh please. bill Maher isn't voting for legislation to strip religious people of their rights he is telling them to mind they own fucking business. Big difference. I stay Woke.
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I'm not going to beh holding my breath on any big, revolutionary moves. But that he's even brought up gay rights is a positive sign. Real Men Wear Dresses*
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he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TikiColadas said: But don't you think there are "haters" on BOTH sides? Hating people because of their differences regardless if you are STRAIGHT, GAY, Christian, Atheist, Black or White is wrong. Jesus never preached hate...always love for all, even the sinners. The ones who stand on some sort of personal version of God's Word hating sinners, gays, drug addicts etc. are not living the Word Of God and what Jesus preached. They are no different than the atheists like Bill Maher who spend a great deal of their lives to attack Christians for their beliefs. I don't hate the Obama supporters...I just don’t agree with what Obama stands for. So at the end of the day...haters are on BOTH sides. Oh please. bill Maher isn't voting for legislation to strip religious people of their rights he is telling them to mind they own fucking business. Big difference. Bill Maher made an entire movie on his obsession to ridicule and disprove all types of religion. "Religulous". Plus he spends time in just about every show preaching his dislike of religion and makes it point to have no religion or beliefs in faith out of our government. He would vote for any and all legislation to ban religion out of our government and most like likely society. After all, he says people who believe in GOD or a Space Man, as he like to call him, are illogical and looney. So, in the end there isn't really a difference...Haters are on both sides. And yes, I do watch Bill Maher on HBO. I don’t agree with his atheistic and self-man beliefs but I do find him funny. Enjoy your week! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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union119 said: he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
the gift we were born with that should never be taken away by anyone go obama! Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: union119 said: he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
the gift we were born with that should never be taken away by anyone go obama! Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! Err, are you saying that even people who don't believe in Christianity should support Christian doctrine? Because that's certainly what it sounds like. And even if that's not what you meant, it's odd that you should use that phrasing, since it's so often Christians that forget that "we're all in this together", when they expect everyone to abide by their rules and fail to consider anyone else's point of view. | |
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Annika said: TikiColadas said: Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! Err, are you saying that even people who don't believe in Christianity should support Christian doctrine? Because that's certainly what it sounds like. And even if that's not what you meant, it's odd that you should use that phrasing, since it's so often Christians that forget that "we're all in this together", when they expect everyone to abide by their rules and fail to consider anyone else's point of view. Annika, No I am not saying that at all. If you or someone else does not share my same belief in God and the belief that Jesus is our savior and the only way to God the Father then that is your right as a human...or an American in this country. That is your choice. We are still in this together...Christian, Atheist, Gay, Straight, Black or White....Obama is the President Elect...we all have to support him as our President but we do not have to all agree with any of his policies, stances or actions. A true Christian will not agree with someone if their beliefs and actions are in opposition of God's Word but a true Christian should and will always show love and respect. The one's who act with hate are not living what Jesus preached. We are all sinners fallen short of the glory of God. There were 2 thieves crucified on either side of Jesus. One rejected HIM as the Son of GOD the other knew who he was and asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus replied to him, "Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." Mel Gibson made a beautiful, haunting and passionate film about Jesus’ death. Jesus died for you and me because GOD so loved the world…LOVES all of us. He sent his only begotten son to die for our sins and save us from death and give us eternal life. That death was the “LOVE” God had for us. Jesus sacrificed His life for all of us….because we were all in this world together. Mel’s hateful words towards the Jewish people are a perfect example of how man can get it wrong…get God’s Word wrong and can forget the whole point of Jesus’ death for us…which is LOVE for one another. Enjoy your day. TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I credit him for actually putting this in his platform. I look forward to the day when our party grows some balls and tells haters to fuck off.
But don't you think there are "haters" on BOTH sides? Hating people because of their differences regardless if you are STRAIGHT, GAY, Christian, Atheist, Black or White is wrong. Jesus never preached hate...always love for all, even the sinners. The ones who stand on some sort of personal version of God's Word hating sinners, gays, drug addicts etc. are not living the Word Of God and what Jesus preached. They are no different than the atheists like Bill Maher who spend a great deal of their lives to attack Christians for their beliefs. I don't hate the Obama supporters...I just don’t agree with what Obama stands for. So at the end of the day...haters are on BOTH sides. What does Obama stand for to you? Do you think Obama-- a man of faith--stands for hating sinners, gays, drug addicts, etc.? I have not seen him say this. He has not been involved in this prop 8 nonsense. In fact, I think he said he was against this. To me, Obama stands on the stand of compassion. To me, he stands on the side of separation of church and state. To me, Obama stands for helping the less fortunate.. trying to make things better regardless of our beliefs. He is not judging: he is letting God judge. And I agree Bill Mahers scares me because he thinks my belief in God is crazy. It hurts me, I have to say, but he has the freedom to believe and say what he wants. As a matter of fact, where does it say in the Bible Christians are the majority anyway? It may turn-out WE will be in the minority, but this does not mean our faith or freedom to believe will be taken away. It might turn-out that God might not be as "popular," but frankly God seems to be losing His popularity for awhile now--mainly because religion has become too political... like trying to control everybody, fighting the wrong battles, I think. Well.. we cannot control people. We only teach and try to live by example, and allow people to find their own paths--some toward the Church.. and then some never to return. We will never lose our freedom of religion even though some might feel more confident in disagreeing, but this is their choice and right, too. We just have be learn to be more tolerant..and find a common ground. This is what I would like is to find a common ground. There are PLENTY of causes we all could get behind in spite of our "beliefs" and differences of opinion. Why don't we look for these--find what we have in common rather than what sets us apart from each other. | |
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TikiColadas said: union119 said: he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
the gift we were born with that should never be taken away by anyone go obama! Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! Oh lord, another Christian who takes it upon themselves to point out Obama's wayward stances. Like George Bush is a litmus test for Christian values. Thousands dead, thousands losing their homes and jobs, and God's word had little to do with any of it. IMPORTANT AS ALL HELL: http://prince.org/msg/7/293484 | |
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TikiColadas said: union119 said: he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
the gift we were born with that should never be taken away by anyone go obama! Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! He is not for ss "marriage": it says right there on his agenda is is for civil unions with full rights which is great but still not ss marriage. Don't ask don't tell... this wording seems like lying by omission. So he is getting rid of lies and working more with the reality. As far as abortion, it is true he is "pro-choice," but he is also pro-life. He just believes in allowing women to choose. He believes in separation of church and state. And I think he is trying to approach the matter.. maybe my making society better so women will not choose this option. But these are only two out of many issues. It is more what he hopes to do for America... He wants health care for all people. He wants the restore the middle class. He wants to use diplomacy.. I just think people make up their minds based upon two issues, then.. forget everything else. | |
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lascantas said: TikiColadas said: But don't you think there are "haters" on BOTH sides? Hating people because of their differences regardless if you are STRAIGHT, GAY, Christian, Atheist, Black or White is wrong. Jesus never preached hate...always love for all, even the sinners. The ones who stand on some sort of personal version of God's Word hating sinners, gays, drug addicts etc. are not living the Word Of God and what Jesus preached. They are no different than the atheists like Bill Maher who spend a great deal of their lives to attack Christians for their beliefs. I don't hate the Obama supporters...I just don’t agree with what Obama stands for. So at the end of the day...haters are on BOTH sides. What does Obama stand for to you? Do you think Obama-- a man of faith--stands for hating sinners, gays, drug addicts, etc.? I have not seen him say this. He has not been involved in this prop 8 nonsense. In fact, I think he said he was against this. To me, Obama stands on the stand of compassion. To me, he stands on the side of separation of church and state. To me, Obama stands for helping the less fortunate.. trying to make things better regardless of our beliefs. He is not judging: he is letting God judge. And I agree Bill Mahers scares me because he thinks my belief in God is crazy. It hurts me, I have to say, but he has the freedom to believe and say what he wants. As a matter of fact, where does it say in the Bible Christians are the majority anyway? It may turn-out WE will be in the minority, but this does not mean our faith or freedom to believe will be taken away. It might turn-out that God might not be as "popular," but frankly God seems to be losing His popularity for awhile now--mainly because religion has become too political... like trying to control everybody, fighting the wrong battles, I think. Well.. we cannot control people. We only teach and try to live by example, and allow people to find their own paths--some toward the Church.. and then some never to return. We will never lose our freedom of religion even though some might feel more confident in disagreeing, but this is their choice and right, too. We just have be learn to be more tolerant..and find a common ground. This is what I would like is to find a common ground. There are PLENTY of causes we all could get behind in spite of our "beliefs" and differences of opinion. Why don't we look for these--find what we have in common rather than what sets us apart from each other. Hi Lascantas. You know. I do not think too much about "what BHO stands for". He is a man, a politician with a questionable past and questionable associations. I do not live in his head and can not answer for him. BUT, I stand in direct opposition on some of his stances and voting records, especially the Life issue. That is important to me and the protection of innocent life will always be more important than an economy that will always fluctuate up and down. He is now our President elect and like I have already said, we all need to support him and hope..."pray" for the best. I just do not see him the way some people do. I do not see him as some great person with the power...or "hope" for real change. There are a lot of people who see him literally as some sort of Messianic figure here to save us or change the world or even make all our individual lives better. Every time I see comments or hear words from some of his followers I can't help but feel it's a little "cult like". No disrespect to you or anyone else but that's just how I feel. WE all should not put so much faith in ONE man. I think there are some that have ignored some of his questionable past choices and associations...I think there are some who voted for him mainly due to skin color while some voted for him because they seem him as some sort of symbol to fight the Christian-right wing left ideology. And some humbly believe he will save our troubled economy. As for your comments on GOD’s falling popularity. The Bible already said this will come to pass…The secular world will rule, the Word of God will be ignored. Religion, yes, might have now become too “political” but God’s Word hasn’t. Only man does this for many reason…political and personal gain, agendas etc. Remember what God has said…there will be many false prophets and false hopes to change and save man and the world. I am not saying that BHO is a false prophet but if misquotes God’s Word and tries to lead and or rule by it then I think something is dangerously wrong. Let's hope that he is all that he promised and is made out to be by some. You brought up some good points. Thanks! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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Imago said: TikiColadas said: Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! Oh lord, another Christian who takes it upon themselves to point out Obama's wayward stances. Like George Bush is a litmus test for Christian values. Thousands dead, thousands losing their homes and jobs, and God's word had little to do with any of it. Hi Imago. I am not sure where you are going with your point. I think I am allowed to say that I do not agree with BHO’s wayward stances just like there are some who have the right to praise him as someone who is almost flawless. And I would not consider George Bush as a litmus test for Christian Values let alone BHO. There will most likely be many lives lost, homes lost and jobs lost under BHO’s watch and God’s word will have little to do with that as well. Just like Bush, BHO is a man with many flaws. Let’s all hope for the best. Enjoy your week. TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: union119 said: he is giving people back their freedom of choice.
the gift we were born with that should never be taken away by anyone go obama! Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! There's still time to find a country of your choice that believes as you do. Personally I don't want a Bible-thumper in the White House again. Abiding by God's Word by the way, is taking away rights from others. Positive, correct and God-like way? Why didn't you run for President to guarantee this? Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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TikiColadas said: Imago said: Oh lord, another Christian who takes it upon themselves to point out Obama's wayward stances. Like George Bush is a litmus test for Christian values. Thousands dead, thousands losing their homes and jobs, and God's word had little to do with any of it. Hi Imago. I am not sure where you are going with your point. I think I am allowed to say that I do not agree with BHO’s wayward stances just like there are some who have the right to praise him as someone who is almost flawless. And I would not consider George Bush as a litmus test for Christian Values let alone BHO. There will most likely be many lives lost, homes lost and jobs lost under BHO’s watch and God’s word will have little to do with that as well. Just like Bush, BHO is a man with many flaws. Let’s all hope for the best. Enjoy your week. Hope for the best? Shouldn't you just be able to pray for the best? BHO exhibits more Christian values than any avowed Republican except possibly Huckabee. Huckabee was so Christian he couldn't get elected. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: TikiColadas said: Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! There's still time to find a country of your choice that believes as you do. May I suggest Saudi Arabia or Iran where women are owned and homosexuals exectuted? I stay Woke.
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SUPRMAN said: TikiColadas said: Actually…we were born 1st with the right to life. The freedom of “choice” is what GOD gave us all and it started in the beginning with Adam and Eve. The choice to live by God’s Word OR your own. But if you do not believe in GOD or Jesus then that’s a different story isn’t it? Obama proclaims he is Christian but some of his practices, stances and acts are opposite of God’s Word. Look at his stance and or voting record on abortion and now on the gay marriage act. If ONE is a true Christian and not a “nut”, “an extreme misguided person of God’s Word” or “a Christian with Hate in their heart” then there is no way one can stand along side and agree with Obama's stances and voting records on both the Life and gay marriage issue. Please understand for a Christian to side with God, HIS way and the way Jesus preached, IS NOT about having hate towards or taking rights from someone eles. It’s about God’s Word and standing for their own enduring Christian essential beliefs and values. We should all pray that Obama will lead, pass legislation and protect our country in the positive, correct and God like way. And again, If you don’t believe in God then please remember…we still are all in this together. Have a great day! There's still time to find a country of your choice that believes as you do. Personally I don't want a Bible-thumper in the White House again. Abiding by God's Word by the way, is taking away rights from others. Positive, correct and God-like way? Why didn't you run for President to guarantee this? Hey Suprman! Always good to hear from you in the forums. We all share and live in the same country. We obviously have different beliefs. I’m still not sure what a bible-thumper is…? Is that some sort of hyper bunny with a bible? I wouldn’t want that in the White House either. Good point! After reading the Bible, I never thought that if one lives or abides by God’s Word will directly cause the effect of having one’s rights taken away. If you are referring to ss marriage or abortion than I would have to say, yes. Those are against God’s Word. But If one does not live by HIS Word than that’s their choice. Does this mean we need to redefine marriage? Keep the country pro choice? I would say no because I believe in God’s Word. And I think you would say yes because you do not believe in God’s Word. Welcome to America. : ) And just like you, I do not have the experience to run for the Presidency. It’s not my calling. Have a great week! P.S. BTW, I am a HUGE Superman fan. Not sure if you dig him to but I dug your posting name. TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SUPRMAN said: There's still time to find a country of your choice that believes as you do. May I suggest Saudi Arabia or Iran where women are owned and homosexuals exectuted? WOW! That's HARSH!!! Even GOD wouldn't want that! Peace to You! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: May I suggest Saudi Arabia or Iran where women are owned and homosexuals exectuted? WOW! That's HARSH!!! Even GOD wouldn't want that! Peace to You! That's what repression gives you. They fall in line more with your beliefs regarding "life" and "gays" than they do with Obama. You were having an issue with Obama's belief on the two right? I stay Woke.
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Hi Imago. I am not sure where you are going with your point. I think I am allowed to say that I do not agree with BHO’s wayward stances just like there are some who have the right to praise him as someone who is almost flawless. And I would not consider George Bush as a litmus test for Christian Values let alone BHO. There will most likely be many lives lost, homes lost and jobs lost under BHO’s watch and God’s word will have little to do with that as well. Just like Bush, BHO is a man with many flaws. Let’s all hope for the best. Enjoy your week. Hope for the best? Shouldn't you just be able to pray for the best? BHO exhibits more Christian values than any avowed Republican except possibly Huckabee. Huckabee was so Christian he couldn't get elected. Yeah! I agree! I do and will continue pray. I only say "hope" for the one's who support Obama's "hope and change" message. "A New Hope" - Star Wars Episode 4...ha! Just being silly! I wouldn't say BHO exhibits more Christian values than any avowed Republican or Democrat or regular Joe-Six Pack Christian. Mainly because BHO has beliefs about God's Word or Christianity that seem to be an almost atmospheric way of thinking. Here is a quote from an interview he did in 2004 with Chicago Sun Times. “I am a Christian. So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith. On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences. I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10. My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim. And I'd say, probably, intellectually I've drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith. So, I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." - BHO Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6 There are lots of ways to get from one place to another. We can hop; we can skip; we can walk backwards; we can run. If we want to travel a long way, we can ride in a car, or fly in an airplane or catch a train. There are lots of ways to get from one place to another, but Jesus specifically said that there is only one way to get to know God. Jesus says, “if you want to get to know God, you have to depend on me. I will show you what God is like, and I will help you know how to love and follow him. I am the only way.” So the fact that BHO believes “there are many paths to the same place” is in opposition to God’s Word and what Jesus said. His pro-choice stance over Life is in opposition to God’s Word. This is only wrong if you believe in God's Word. If you don't believe in God's Word then it's not wrong to you. Check out full interview. It’s a good read! http://blog.beliefnet.com...hleen.html And yes. Huckabee ROCKS!. Have a great day Suprman! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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WOW! That's HARSH!!! Even GOD wouldn't want that! Peace to You! That's what repression gives you. They fall in line more with your beliefs regarding "life" and "gays" than they do with Obama. You were having an issue with Obama's belief on the two right? Hey Supa! Not sure what you are asking. I just don't agree with BHO's stance, voting record or beliefs on the Life Issue and ss maraige. That's all. TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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TikiColadas said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: That's what repression gives you. They fall in line more with your beliefs regarding "life" and "gays" than they do with Obama. You were having an issue with Obama's belief on the two right? Hey Supa! Not sure what you are asking. I just don't agree with BHO's stance, voting record or beliefs on the Life Issue and ss maraige. That's all. He supports a woman's right to have a say in what happens to or in her body and for the most part supports equal rights for lesbians and gays but you don't believe in either stance right? In Saudi Arabia and Iran, they don't believe in them either. Your views are much closer to savage socieities than you want to believe. . [Edited 11/19/08 12:46pm] I stay Woke.
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TikiColadas said: SUPRMAN said: Hope for the best? Shouldn't you just be able to pray for the best? BHO exhibits more Christian values than any avowed Republican except possibly Huckabee. Huckabee was so Christian he couldn't get elected. Yeah! I agree! I do and will continue pray. I only say "hope" for the one's who support Obama's "hope and change" message. "A New Hope" - Star Wars Episode 4...ha! Just being silly! I wouldn't say BHO exhibits more Christian values than any avowed Republican or Democrat or regular Joe-Six Pack Christian. Mainly because BHO has beliefs about God's Word or Christianity that seem to be an almost atmospheric way of thinking. Here is a quote from an interview he did in 2004 with Chicago Sun Times. “I am a Christian. So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith. On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences. I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10. My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim. And I'd say, probably, intellectually I've drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith. So, I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived." - BHO Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6 There are lots of ways to get from one place to another. We can hop; we can skip; we can walk backwards; we can run. If we want to travel a long way, we can ride in a car, or fly in an airplane or catch a train. There are lots of ways to get from one place to another, but Jesus specifically said that there is only one way to get to know God. Jesus says, “if you want to get to know God, you have to depend on me. I will show you what God is like, and I will help you know how to love and follow him. I am the only way.” So the fact that BHO believes “there are many paths to the same place” is in opposition to God’s Word and what Jesus said. His pro-choice stance over Life is in opposition to God’s Word. This is only wrong if you believe in God's Word. If you don't believe in God's Word then it's not wrong to you. Check out full interview. It’s a good read! http://blog.beliefnet.com...hleen.html And yes. Huckabee ROCKS!. Have a great day Suprman! Thanx! His pro-choice stance is not wrong. A lot of pro-choice people do believe that abortion is not something they would consider or want to do, they are not going to impose their view on others. So I don't see respecting someone else's free will and choice as being against God's Word. If that were the case, Judaism should not be tolerated. They have to be taught that Jesus is the Messiah and he is the only way to God, and Heaven. Same with Islam, they too are in error and need to be converted. If all he is doing is respecting someone else's right to disagree with his views and seek the option to have an abortion, I don't see that as conflicting with his faith. If it is conflicting, then the logical conclusion is that God should intervene if his Word trumps our free will. Likewise I don't believe his inclusiveness that there are more than one path to God is an acknowledgment that everyone does not believe as he does and that he respects their beliefs as much as he does his own. Again, not a contradiction of faith or the Word. To say otherwise is to say that he has to ignore the obvious. He's lived in Hawai'i and Indonesia where his earliest exposure to religion, certainly in Indonesia, he was a minority believer. The majority is Muslim and he is not. So he realizes the Judeo-Christian mythology of America but also remembers that minority believers deserve to be recognized and validated. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TikiColadas said: Hey Supa! Not sure what you are asking. I just don't agree with BHO's stance, voting record or beliefs on the Life Issue and ss maraige. That's all. He supports a woman's right to have a say in what happens to or in her body and for the most part supports equal rights for lesbians and gays but you don't believe in either stance right? In Saudi Arabia and Iran, they don't believe in them either. Your views are much closer to savage socieities than you want to believe. . [Edited 11/19/08 12:46pm] Sup Supa! I don’t believe a woman's right or choice on what she does with her body triumphs the right to protect innocent life. Murder is murder. If some one does not support war especially the loss of lives due to war than how can someone who is prochoice support the murder of innocent and unprotected life? I know there are cases of unwanted or forced pregnancies caused by rape and or incest but those are drastically few in number in comparison to the amount of unwanted pregnancies caused by “accidents” or lack of contraceptives. I am sorry but this is where I part ways with your argument…I do not support abortion. I just can’t. As far equal rights for gays and lesbians, I am not one to day they can’t have equal rights. I just don’t believe in redefining marriage as anything other than between a man and a woman. My views are what I believe and what God’s word says. If my views were savage than I would be a violent and hateful person. The KKK kill, hate and declare supremacy over blacks, Asians, gays, lesbians and any one not in line with their agenda. All in God’s name. But you know what? Those evil acts and beliefs are not of GOD. Peace to you! TIKI COLADAS the Web Comic
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