Something that may need to be heard...

I for one, have grown tired of all the subjective, and biased opinions that dominate this website, and the topics therein. Every time I visit "the org" I am overcome with negative energy, topics that are irrelevent, orgers who bash, lack respect and/or maturity, and a multitude of other elements, that have resulted in my despising of this website. I joined this website, because I had intentions of learning, and discussing subjects/topics about a musical artist, that has been a major impact in my life...Prince. I didn't join this website to hear a whole bunch of disgruntled and discontented "fans" enforce their personal views, and or beliefs. I'm not saying I don't want to hear others opinions, because I do. The problem occurs when people act as if their opinions are FACT, and aren't respectable to others. Many a time have I become discouraged from stating my opinion, simply because of the fact that no one would respect it, or consider it's relevance. It seems unfair, but I've learned to realize that the majority of the people on this website don't care. And never will. I'm not trying to call anyone out, or offend anyone, because this isn't directed towards any one person. This is directed towards an attitude, that I see rather prevalent throughout the various posts, and responses. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who are respectable, and considerate to others ideas...but they are constantly being over shadowed by some form of negative energy, biased opinions, and a type of pungent irrelevance. Every time I visit this website, I just get let down, constantly. I'm not asking people to agree with me, they don't have to. This is my personal opinion, and I'm not trying to enforce it upon anyone, I simply want to be heard,as in comprehended, and I want to know if anyone feels the same...antagonism I feel. After all, you don't need to agree with everything Prince says, has said, does, or did, to be a fan. You don't even have to like his music, that's your opinion. But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.

I get irritated by people throwing tantrums about not being able to watch Prince videos on youtube, or "experience" his music. It is HIS music, and his right to do with it, whatever he may please, at the cost of a fan, is of little significance, for the aware fan, would understand, the biased one, one of greed, would whine, and throw fit. Believe me, I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.

I'm not trying to preach, although some people will think that.

Whatever.

Anyone is entitled to feel whatever sentiments they may feel towards mine, and I am endowed equality on that matter, and with that being said...

Thank you, for taking YOUR time to read MY thoughts, I appreciate it, truly. For they are thoughts, and only thoughts, NOT FACTS.

Thank you for sharing AshuraNazume...
I may have a biased love for Prince that will joking respond to unecessary agressive comments...although I accept if someone has an opinion that is less favorable of the music than I.
I have started several threads open for discussing Prince's music and lyrics...and I have also been disappointed with the lack of responses for the amount of people that visit here....

When you go to college and take a class...It is possible to spend an entire hour breaking down a poem, and highlighting several aspects...and I am surprised that some people don't take adavantage of how many subjects and styles Prince has to play with intelligently...It makes me wonder how many Prince fans really feel the man inside the music...
Prince is a beautiful spirit with a fantastic mind...Anyone could write a book about him truthfully...I never will though..

Ashura, could'nt repsect you more. Your are the epitome of what a true fan should be.

Most thanks and regards to Tame, and dyami12, simply for taking their time, to read my thoughts, and post a response.

I appreciate the intel, and the insight.

Ashrua... while I feel the same way you do, it is important to remember, that this is also a place where we can convey our feelings, as you have conveyed yours. I like to read some of the whining also, it makes me appreciate the fact that I don't live near those people It's all about feeeeelllliinnngs, oh wo wo feeeeellllliiings.

..... ...it is what it is.

Clink, Clank and Clunk
I LOVE IT! ! ! !

AshuraNazume said:[quote]But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.
I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.
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Couldn't have said it better.

Was I the only one who laughed when heard of 'Prince Fans United'?

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

It is frustrating to me too. I really enjoy reading threads about things/song/events that I did not know about. I don't have any negativity about Prince or his music either. I don't LOVE every song or video or movie, but there is so much material from him and there is so much that does touch me. But, I choose to just join conversations that I feel comfortable in.

I am still here.

You lived in a country of islands where the people are taught to respect and honor others and are morally educated. There is definitely a difference between here and there,and with that said wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all respect one another. You are a young individual and can grow to teach others around you. ..make a difference.

As for prince.org enjoy what it has to offer and try to ignore the comments that are displeasing to you. You will find the ones that share your thoughts, and make some good friends here. Enjoy your stay.

Thanks to all anteceding, and preceding posts, all thoughts are appreciated. All advice adhered.
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AshuraNazume ..please be understanding of your fellow posters. ..As has been said before me ..learn to ignore and skip reading posts and/or threads that annoy you.

Prince has been working in the music business (because regardless of how much joy it brings ..it's 'work') ..practically nonstop.. since he was 16 or 17 years old. That is a lo-o-ong time. ..Wouldn't it be wonderful if all of us had jobs that we mostly loved but that could also provide for us (keep bread on the table and a roof over our heads). However, just like anyone else ..I'm sure he's gets completely exhausted sometimes ..mentally ..physically. ...Imo, when he takes a break ..some of the people who love his music become a little ..impatient and anxious. The prevailing train of thought seems to be that when he doesn't have something out (..after they're become slightly tired of listening to what he's just produced) ..then he should immediately have something else out to appease them. ..He probably could ..but would it be worth it?

Try to understand their impatience and the ..'why'..factor of the behavior you see exhibited. I must admit that sometimes in reading over here ..I've had to ask myself "..is this a Prince 'love' board or a Prince 'hate' board?" ..because, imo, some of the posts are really pretty bad and insulting towards him. ..I've come to realize that it is for the most part a 'pro' Prince board. However, some of his fans are a bit frustrated that he's, apparently, not as accessible as he once was ..or hopping all over with as much fanfare as he once did. ..32 - 33 years of nonstop working ..and in a field which requires creative genius?? ..and with 'life' intervening?? ....How ready would most of us be to keep churning it out ..in a field like the music business.. with no real rest in which to revitalize ourselves?? ..It's a wonder he hasn't simply retired completely.

Anyway, try to understand and be patient with those who are different than you. Avoid willingly subjecting yourself to threads and topics that you have the slightest clue that you will find offensive or irritating ..and enjoy what you can here. ..You may not end up spending as much time here as you'd hoped ..but you will begin to find the experience much more enjoyable.

Much love to you.

Everything Prince does is great and nobody can ever criticize his career or his music...PLEASE!!! it's a free country and we shall be heard!!

I appreciate your honesty and willingness to share your true feelings. Many Orgers have voiced the same concerns.

Over the past year I've seen negative posters come and go. As another Orger suggested above, you might share your feelings about a particular post/thread or simply ignore the ones you believe are designed to inflame.

I'd rather mods spent their time locking stupid threads like these than legit ones like the "if prince was ever convicted of a crime would you still support him".

Welcome to the internet.

Sophianestesia said

Couldn't have said it better.

Was I the only one who laughed when heard of 'Prince Fans United'?

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

Hey Ashura!

I'm not trying to downplay your feelings or anything, but the fact that the org is a place where people can come and bitch about the star the site is dedicated to is exactly what got me interested .

I may not have a lot of bad things to say about Prince, but I like being in a place where anybody can say anything they want... and the fact that some are truly disrespectful and have only time to waste just reminds you that people like them exist lol... well that does matter to me cuz sometimes I really DO forget about them lol.

And not to turn it political, i just wanna say it , coming from a place where people still can't grasp the meaning of 'opinion'... it feels liberating!

Sorry for the overload! I just always have a lot to say .

I appreciate all the advice, and the suggestions to ignore...certain actions. This is something I have done, and am capable of. But, I do like learning from all the different view points, which exist throughout this community. I like to see, why people feel the way they do...if they have a reason, or simply a personal feeling that would lead to their contributions, positive, or negative.

myfavotite says... "it is what it is"
This is true, but I'm not trying to change people, just trying to understand motive.

purplesweat, obviosly enjoys engaging in endeavors of fantasy, rather than participating in intellectual, and unbiased threads. That's okay, your opinion is respected. Just display your arrogance where more people will notice it, next time.

NouveauDance said..."Welcome to the internet."
I say, the internet for negative orgers, such as purplesweat, is symbollic of an electromagnetic facade, that allows the introverted, and cynical to voice thier feelings without rebuttle. Trust me, if I could talk to other Prince fans, I would.

I live in an area where the only artists that dominate are Kieth Urban, Nickleback, and Soulja Boy...there's nothing wrong with that, but, it makes connecting with other Prince fans dificult. Hence my joining of "the org"


Once again, thanks to all for their time.

NouveauDance said:

~PRINCE IS HUMAN Y'ALL (and he only got a GED), DEAL WIT IT! PRINCEY: point me in the right direction 2 make my connection 2 your purple perfection & get my musical infection!"

Fragmentor said:

Sophianestesia said

Couldn't have said it better.

Was I the only one who laughed when heard of 'Prince Fans United'?

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

Wasn't PFU formed to publicise against Prince/his legal team from shutting this site and other like it down, or removing any mention of the man himself, which is in essence the same thing. I don't think it was formed to protest against his lack of videos. The PFU has my full support, Prince is a celebrity and should expect people to talk about him. Trying to take that away is wrong and goes against everything free speech stands for.
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ok ashura, ...whatever, dayum




somebody get me a tea befor i blw it in here! ! ! ! ...not really

Clink, Clank and Clunk
I LOVE IT! ! ! !

Welcome to a public forum. Your opinion is as valid as people lamenting not being able to watch video's. And, in a way, your thread is as negative as the ones you bemoan.

Good luck.

AshuraNazume said:

I agree with everything you say !But its bloody annoying that you can only see a prince gig if you can afford to get a ticket!!!

What? and what in this world worth having is FREE?

I didn't get past the first sentence. You need to realize that opinions are, by definition, subjective.

AshuraNazume said:

Sophianestesia said:[quote]AshuraNazume said:[quote]But to be a fan, the only thing you really got to do is...understand.
I would enjoy watching Prince videos on the internet, but if Prince doesn't want his music on youtube, then so be it. I'm not going to abondon him, for something so trivial as that.

Couldn't have said it better.

Was I the only one who laughed when heard of 'Prince Fans United'?

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?

Why the hell is this over at site discussion? It should have stayed over at P:M&M.

To my dismay, it was transported to the "site discussion" forum. I don't think the orgers predominantly visiting the "Prince: music and more" forum, would contemplate it, as much as the orgers on this forum have.