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Learn from Radiohead: Music industry ‘should embrace illegal websites’ Interesting article:
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according to a study of Radiohead’s last album release that found huge numbers of people downloaded it illegally even though the band allowed fans to pay little or nothing for it.
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CosmicDancer said: according to a study of Radiohead’s last album release that found huge numbers of people downloaded it illegally even though the band allowed fans to pay little or nothing for it.
thats a wake up call if i've ever heard one  not to mention a slap in the face to a band that asked for little and got even less for the work their fans supposedly love. i'm against the notion of 19 bucks for a cd but i'm also against people expecting something for nothing. i would like to see how many of us are willing to go to work every morning, be productive, and walk away without expecting to get paid. there's no legitimate justification for stealing something just because you can. it doesn't matter of you pay to see them live, or pay for the merch, or whatever. if you listen to the cd, if you want the cd in your collection, pay for it like you would anything else. this is just another example of punishing the producer of value for the simple fact that you want what they produce. "IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD." | |
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Please, if you wanted to stop the major peer to peer sites you can, saying you cant is bullshit.
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violetblues said: BTW Radiohead learned enough to say they would not release their next album that way. lol where did they say this? u got a link. Radiohead's legal and business model is flawed and am not surprised it failed miserably - hey at least it attempted to address the issue of file-sharing. | |
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sassybritches said: CosmicDancer said: according to a study of Radiohead’s last album release that found huge numbers of people downloaded it illegally even though the band allowed fans to pay little or nothing for it.
thats a wake up call if i've ever heard one not to mention a slap in the face to a band that asked for little and got even less for the work their fans supposedly love. i'm against the notion of 19 bucks for a cd but i'm also against people expecting something for nothing. i would like to see how many of us are willing to go to work every morning, be productive, and walk away without expecting to get paid. there's no legitimate justification for stealing something just because you can. it doesn't matter of you pay to see them live, or pay for the merch, or whatever. if you listen to the cd, if you want the cd in your collection, pay for it like you would anything else. this is just another example of punishing the producer of value for the simple fact that you want what they produce. i agree but then i disagree. how are you going to coerce people into pruchasing legitimate copies of music when they are already entrenched in their own ways - many wont go from illegally downloading free albums to purchasing them. you won't also find many honest people willing to pay the real price. this is about trying to or attempting to change the mindset of the average consumer who already work on the basis that they can get something without paying for it and its brilliant to them. | |
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How did Radiohead fail? I still dont understand how people think they failed, it was a no lose situation, and they won clearly. They gave the option of Price and even though it was a small % people did still pay, then when the album was released it has sold 400,000 to date in the USA alone. Not bad for an album that was Free to anyone. Rick Springfield - Venus in Overdrive check out Stefani Vara "Water" http://www.myspace.com/stefanivara | |
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they failed with me... they asked me to pay for a great album with complete shit quality 160kbps...
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Sdldawn said: they failed with me... they asked me to pay for a great album with complete shit quality 160kbps...
thanks for heads up on the quality thom. to be honest, i didn't pay for that download. i got it from their own site on the day it was released and didn't pay for it since i knew that i would (and i since did) buy the actual cd copy. if they'd kept it a strictly download only album i would have payed for it but just like with prince i don't really see the need to pay for a download if i'm gonna buy their physical product a month later. it'd be like buying 2 copies of the same album in the store. i never did it before and i don't intend to start doing it now. if something is only available online i'll pay for it but i'm not gonna be dishing out cash if i'm gonna buy it in the store later on. and people will say "but you get it early and it's in support of the group" yeah well, there's enough people downloading it from a torrent who will not buy the physical product at all. the music bizz just need to rethink their strategy. either sell albums thru your own website and ship them out for $6 a piece or sell them in stores at a prince between $6 and $8. that might get me back to buying instead of the download and only buy if it's really really really good attitude i have now. sometimes i wish i had a pill to make people disappear | |
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sassybritches said: CosmicDancer said: according to a study of Radiohead’s last album release that found huge numbers of people downloaded it illegally even though the band allowed fans to pay little or nothing for it.
thats a wake up call if i've ever heard one not to mention a slap in the face to a band that asked for little and got even less for the work their fans supposedly love. i'm against the notion of 19 bucks for a cd but i'm also against people expecting something for nothing. i would like to see how many of us are willing to go to work every morning, be productive, and walk away without expecting to get paid. there's no legitimate justification for stealing something just because you can. it doesn't matter of you pay to see them live, or pay for the merch, or whatever. if you listen to the cd, if you want the cd in your collection, pay for it like you would anything else. this is just another example of punishing the producer of value for the simple fact that you want what they produce. but how many of us are paid their wages and then expect to be payed again a few months later for the exact same work, simply because someone put an index on it and slapped it into a folder? sometimes i wish i had a pill to make people disappear | |
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I love "In Rainbows" and I love Radiohead, would have bought the physical CD, no prob, but i recieved my copy as a gift during pledge week at our local public radio station KCRW. | |
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sassybritches said: CosmicDancer said: according to a study of Radiohead’s last album release that found huge numbers of people downloaded it illegally even though the band allowed fans to pay little or nothing for it.
thats a wake up call if i've ever heard one not to mention a slap in the face to a band that asked for little and got even less for the work their fans supposedly love. i'm against the notion of 19 bucks for a cd but i'm also against people expecting something for nothing. i would like to see how many of us are willing to go to work every morning, be productive, and walk away without expecting to get paid. there's no legitimate justification for stealing something just because you can. it doesn't matter of you pay to see them live, or pay for the merch, or whatever. if you listen to the cd, if you want the cd in your collection, pay for it like you would anything else. this is just another example of punishing the producer of value for the simple fact that you want what they produce. You are missing the point. There is nothing you or the industry can do. I detest these revolving door debates. It's not a black and white issue. I reccomend when this 13 part series on Piracy comes out, you watch this attentively. The act of doing something just makes it worse kind of like the war on terrorism. Alot of bands support downloading on P2p. The ones that don't are usually RIAA motivated or paranoid of new technology. Either Adapt or Die...it's that simple. The more you talk about it the more you promote it. The future is now. There is NO strangehold on the truth in this issue. Technically you arent stealing their money if you weren't going to pay for it anyways. You only have so much money to buy music. Those that do it correctly are the victors those that do it incorrectly are the latter. The way I look at it is, if it it's out there I and millions of others are going to download these select artists. It's that simple and people have to deal with it. There will always be someone in the world excited to share something that may be illegal in copyright. But we have bigger problems in Piracy than audiophile who doesn't follow copyright rules. I have no problem with downloading whatsoever. We can go around in circles,Sassybritches. But the truth is we all have copyrighted material on our harddrive whether it be graphics,text,sound files or video files. Anyone who says they don't are lying. I can check your cache in about 2 seconds and technically the users will have it on their hard drive. Anyone who says they do not have copyrighted material on their computer is a hypocrite. Even the people at the RIAA/MPAA have copyrighted illegal material from the internet. So if we going to go by the letter of the law that makes everyone guilty for having copyrighted material in their browser cache I support Rapidshare,megaupload,badongo,filedropper,shareit,sendit,isohunt,piratebay, People bring awareness to new artists and the only way I would know about them is through these various avenues. That is a fact and people have to deal with the positives and negatives of any new technology. There is one plus side to all of this for artists who are paranoid: Alot of these links and seeds die after a 5-6 month cycle. | |
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